Botnets on your networks………….

April 12th, 2007 Drazen Drazic Posted in cyber crime |

The guys at Support Intelligence have been gathering some information on botnets on corporate networks. Worth a read at http://blog.support-intelligence.com/.

Without doubt a huge problem - far more than most expect. We’ve covered this before but it’s worth repeating - most companies have little idea of what some of their perimeter systems are doing. We see it all the time! But, hey, a patch will fix that won’t it?! …. :-) If only spam was the only concern.

As mentioned, we still see figures in the vicinity of 90%+ of businesses who don’t want to know what may have been happening on their systems when we detect a compromised or potentially compromised system(s). Why? Pretty obvious ……..

It’s a bit like knowing someone has broken into your house and your first reaction is to come home, sit down, watch TV and carry on life as normal. You decide to replace the lock after a few days, and then hope that sometime in the future you don’t stumble upon something broken or missing.

Gees, if I was the CEO or a shareholder, I’d want to know this stuff is happening.

4 Responses to “Botnets on your networks………….”

  1. Rather large corporate I recently worked with had only 20 machines compromised internally ( out of thousands.. won´t go in to details let´s just say unmanged machines and labs ) that took out one of their major global POP´s from the resulting DDOS following the default route to the internet. They were not the target just victims e.g. innocent bystanders unlnkowingly partaking in some other attempted attack elsewhere. Have you got IDS on your darkspace. Have you got sinkhole routing ready to roll or can you scrub your traffic be you an enterprise or ISP? Ever heard of extrusion detection :) Scary when the command and control channels are not IRC anymore and are becoming SSL based scraping of websites, harder to detect without proxies and operating whitelisting rather than blacklisting. Do you limit where your employees can go today?

    Glad you point this out as it´s not just Mom and Pop PC´s but corporates actually wondering why their FW´s are dying. Check your DENIED traffic outbound today? Audited your FW ruleset recently?
    Is your organisation a member of FIRST or on NSP-SEC ?

    My 0.02cents,

    D.

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